Tuesday, December 3, 2019

So Frustrating!

This is what I always dread with the dip.  The figures turned out HIGHLY glossy.  I painted them with a clear flat acrylic, waited for them to dry, and sprayed them with rattle-can Dullcote.  This is the result.



I know a lot of people like that shiny toy soldier look, but it's not for me.

Next I tried spraying Winsor & Newtown flat lacquer.  The result was no better.


I have quite an arsenal of clear sealants.  I worked my way through them. Nothing was cutting that sheen.


I finally had to try out the Testor's Dullcote in the bottle.  I mixed it with lacquer thinner, donned my hazmat breather, and gave a small group of figures a spray.  Disaster ensued.



I hope I can get rid of this frosting.  If I cannot, I will have to strip the figures and start again.

22 comments:

  1. Well fuck. Frosting is the worst.

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  2. I don't use AP instead I brush on GW Agrax Earthshade it dries to a nice flat finish. I'm working on 6mm figures so a little goes a long way which is good as GW stuff is never cheap!

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    1. Well, the dip I use is Minwax Polyshades Tudor Satin. It has (usually) worked well in the past, but this was a new can.

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  3. Try painting the frosted figures with a bit of olive oil. Really. Read the tip on a blog somewhere (can't remember where though- a quick google should be able to turn it up), and it worked a charm for me!

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  4. Damn it! Since I began using W&N Matte, I have NEVER had a sheen even after staining the figures with Minwax. Even these recent colds temperatures have not phased the stuff.

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  5. My heart goes out to you Scott...
    It is so frustrating when that happens...
    These days I avoid using sprays..
    I have been using a brush on matt varnish by a company called pebeo... so far ...touch wood I have had no problems...
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pebeo-250-Matt-Varnish-Transparent/dp/B005IW0FQE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=pebeo+acrylic+matt+varnish+250ml&qid=1575415171&sr=8-1#

    The only way I have found to get rid of frosting is to sit the figures somewhere warm for a while then give them a coat of gloss... sadly this doesn't always work... but if all else fails its worth a try... of course you then have to matt varnish them again... you might end up with some very thick miniatures if you are not careful ;-)

    All the best Aly

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  6. Ouch. When this happened to me I would spray with a gloss varnish and that would get rid of the frosting, as with Aly.

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  7. Put a gloss coat over the figures and that will get rid of the frost then brush on W&N Galeria Matt Varnish(not the spay)and that should get rid of the shine.

    Christopher

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    1. Oh forgot to say with the W6N give the bottle a really good shake and dip your brush in the bubbles to get the best matt coat. I know sounds strange but it's true.

      Christopher

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  8. I happen to like a satin finish myself, but as I was reading the first part of the post, I was saying, "Well, at least gloss is WAY better than Frost." And then... wham! It happened. My sympathies. Having had the frost a few times over the decades, I am paranoid about avoiding it!

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  9. The frosting is problematic. I let the figures sit 48+ hours after I dip them and then go over them with brushed-on matte varnish. After that I'll do the basing/flocking thing. I spray them with dullcote after that. I found that the spray dullcote interacts weirdly with the dip. The brushed-on varnish provides a protection.

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    1. That's exactly my process, but this time it just didn't work right.

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  10. Meh, so they were fighting their way through a mass of spider webs. No biggie.

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    1. If they were for myself, maybe. When I'm getting paid, the figures have to be perfect!

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  11. Did you try the olive oil?

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    1. No, I was able to get the frosting away with some paint stripper and a toothbrush.

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  12. I'm surprised the Model Master Flat Clear Lacquer didn't work: I use that stuff regularly and it hasn't failed yet. Must have been some radioactive shiny on them figs.

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  13. chiming in a year and a month late. Just tried using Krylon spry dullcoat instead of my usual Testors Dullcoat... got a mild white misty coating for the first time. Had read about the olive oil trick, so brushed figs with that and let sit a few days... well now they were a bit shiny and oily... soft toothbrush and some Dawn liquid and it appears to have taken off the dullcoat and mild frost and back to a bit shiny again... I'll hit it with my Testor's later... hate the price but like the results... not sure if Temp. played a part at all... for this near miss... PS Really like what your doing. Just found your blog within the last month and been perusing your posts.

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