This is what I always dread with the dip. The figures turned out HIGHLY glossy. I painted them with a clear flat acrylic, waited for them to dry, and sprayed them with rattle-can Dullcote. This is the result.
I know a lot of people like that shiny toy soldier look, but it's not for me.
Next I tried spraying Winsor & Newtown flat lacquer. The result was no better.
I have quite an arsenal of clear sealants. I worked my way through them. Nothing was cutting that sheen.
I finally had to try out the Testor's Dullcote in the bottle. I mixed it with lacquer thinner, donned my hazmat breather, and gave a small group of figures a spray. Disaster ensued.
I hope I can get rid of this frosting. If I cannot, I will have to strip the figures and start again.
Well fuck. Frosting is the worst.
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DeleteI don't use AP instead I brush on GW Agrax Earthshade it dries to a nice flat finish. I'm working on 6mm figures so a little goes a long way which is good as GW stuff is never cheap!
ReplyDeleteWell, the dip I use is Minwax Polyshades Tudor Satin. It has (usually) worked well in the past, but this was a new can.
DeleteTry painting the frosted figures with a bit of olive oil. Really. Read the tip on a blog somewhere (can't remember where though- a quick google should be able to turn it up), and it worked a charm for me!
ReplyDeleteI'll give it a go!
DeleteDamn it! Since I began using W&N Matte, I have NEVER had a sheen even after staining the figures with Minwax. Even these recent colds temperatures have not phased the stuff.
ReplyDeleteMy heart goes out to you Scott...
ReplyDeleteIt is so frustrating when that happens...
These days I avoid using sprays..
I have been using a brush on matt varnish by a company called pebeo... so far ...touch wood I have had no problems...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pebeo-250-Matt-Varnish-Transparent/dp/B005IW0FQE/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=pebeo+acrylic+matt+varnish+250ml&qid=1575415171&sr=8-1#
The only way I have found to get rid of frosting is to sit the figures somewhere warm for a while then give them a coat of gloss... sadly this doesn't always work... but if all else fails its worth a try... of course you then have to matt varnish them again... you might end up with some very thick miniatures if you are not careful ;-)
All the best Aly
Ouch. When this happened to me I would spray with a gloss varnish and that would get rid of the frosting, as with Aly.
ReplyDeletePut a gloss coat over the figures and that will get rid of the frost then brush on W&N Galeria Matt Varnish(not the spay)and that should get rid of the shine.
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Oh forgot to say with the W6N give the bottle a really good shake and dip your brush in the bubbles to get the best matt coat. I know sounds strange but it's true.
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I happen to like a satin finish myself, but as I was reading the first part of the post, I was saying, "Well, at least gloss is WAY better than Frost." And then... wham! It happened. My sympathies. Having had the frost a few times over the decades, I am paranoid about avoiding it!
ReplyDeleteI have it pretty well solved now, I hope!
DeleteThe frosting is problematic. I let the figures sit 48+ hours after I dip them and then go over them with brushed-on matte varnish. After that I'll do the basing/flocking thing. I spray them with dullcote after that. I found that the spray dullcote interacts weirdly with the dip. The brushed-on varnish provides a protection.
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly my process, but this time it just didn't work right.
DeleteMeh, so they were fighting their way through a mass of spider webs. No biggie.
ReplyDeleteIf they were for myself, maybe. When I'm getting paid, the figures have to be perfect!
DeleteDid you try the olive oil?
ReplyDeleteNo, I was able to get the frosting away with some paint stripper and a toothbrush.
DeleteI'm surprised the Model Master Flat Clear Lacquer didn't work: I use that stuff regularly and it hasn't failed yet. Must have been some radioactive shiny on them figs.
ReplyDeletechiming in a year and a month late. Just tried using Krylon spry dullcoat instead of my usual Testors Dullcoat... got a mild white misty coating for the first time. Had read about the olive oil trick, so brushed figs with that and let sit a few days... well now they were a bit shiny and oily... soft toothbrush and some Dawn liquid and it appears to have taken off the dullcoat and mild frost and back to a bit shiny again... I'll hit it with my Testor's later... hate the price but like the results... not sure if Temp. played a part at all... for this near miss... PS Really like what your doing. Just found your blog within the last month and been perusing your posts.
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